William Matheson ([info]nova_one) wrote,
@ 2009-06-28 13:44:00
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free advice!
Warning: There will be some stinging truths expressed in this post, and I will be using all of the colourful metaphors at my disposal.

What follows are some of the vitally important ideas that have sprung from what I've been reading and experiencing. Men and women alike can use many of these things, although a few are of specific concern to men and merely of interest to women.

- Never, ever give women what they want. Unless you're already with them, then doing so occasionally is permissible. Never buy women things either, for the same reason: If you pay for her ticket or for her meal, it's like you're paying her to be there with you. Hell, if you want that, there are escort services available for that kind of thing. And in that case you'll actually get something for your money, instead of a lot of heartache and anguish.

- Beauty is a fine thing, isn't it? But why is it there? Why does it turn men into nervous piles of mush? The purpose of beauty is to weed out the losers who are dumbstruck by it. Don't be that loser. And for heaven's sake, don't stare. I've been guilty of this behaviour myself, embarrassingly recently.

- Never go out of your way to pay a woman you're interested in a compliment. Funny left-handed compliments are far better. (Try not to be simply irritating, though. This is something else I'm working on, and it will get easier and more natural with time.) Definitely compliment the crap out of her friends, though. If you're paying a woman a compliment, or if you're that guy who's dumbstruck by her beauty, the message you're putting in her head is, "Hmmm, I wonder if I can do even better?" Everyone's always trying to upgrade!

- Some women (usually ones with serious psychological issues) will prey on men who are insecure and who will do anything for them. (I "dated" one such woman for two months. It was a sick farce.) Run away, far away, and get your shit together so it doesn't happen again... unless you want to have the rest of your life under the control of this person and her psychic-vampire, responsibility-avoiding narcissistic bullshit.

- Everybody's trying to dress up the mating game with amorphous, vapid theories about being yourself and "not looking," and saying that the person inside matters more than the person outside. A lot of it is pure bullshit (looks matter more in many contexts), though some of the things I'll grant to be half-truths:

You can't just be yourself. If that really worked, why would you be miserable? I'm willing to bet money that, deep inside, "you" are a whiny little kid that wants everything your own way, am I right? Adulthood is about using your brain and not just reacting to everything emotionally. (We all slip sometimes, me included, and you don't even need me to say how awful it makes us look.) When you take control of yourself, you're not just being yourself - you're being your best self.

And let's not forget to tackle the infamous "the way to get a woman is not looking" example. Sure, if you present the fact that you're looking in this fashion: "OMG I'm such a depraved, lonely POS because I'm looking for a mate" then bloody hell yes, looking is bad. As Dan Savage would say (he says it in the context of letting your partner know what's "on the menu," but I think it can be applied here), don't present it like you have cancer. Present it like you're a hot item! Like, holy shit, you're out on the market! This is a limited opportunity! And smile, wink, and laugh. (My hands-down favourite quote from Neil Strauss' "The Game" is actually these words from a guy called Juggler: "Laughter is the best seduction." I think for my part I will make my jokes slightly less acerbic and actually express greater interest in other people. ;-)

- Ah, yes, actually being that hot item. My formula for this involves a lot of work, but I can say that the work has been its own reward, and it hasn't all been misery and drudgery - quite the contrary, in fact. Since returning from Japan, I've thrown myself into learning and doing. This summer (and it's only half-finished!) has been the most enriching I've ever had! Believing in yourself takes work - you need to be engaged in things that interest and captivate you, and find success and gratification in them. (And buy some nice clothes that fit you, while you're at it. If you're a man, ideally you should walk up to a counter attended by two ladies and ask the less attractive one to help you. The time I did this, I never had a more helpful or attentive clerk!)

- Along the way, don't feign humility. If you're lucky enough to receive a compliment, accept it sincerely. Thank the other person for acknowledging what you already know about yourself. Isn't that a more honest, less manipulative approach? And besides, to use a baseball metaphor, you want to communicate the fact that you're around to hit home runs or throw perfect games, not hit bloop singles or load the bases. As much as it's true that we don't deserve majority credit for what we are (chiefly because we had no control over who we were born as), it's also true that, in the long run, your success is not a fluke. Don't treat it that way.

- If you are the least little bit successful, you will attract a great deal of criticism. Think about it: What's your first reaction when you hear that someone (who isn't already your friend) has been successful at such-and-such? You try to rationalize it, you try to take them down a peg. Everybody's going to be doing that to you. Criticisms are often compliments in disguise. So know this: not everybody's going to like you, and some will not like you because you're actually worth something, because you're doing things differently than everybody else, because you've found a modicum of success.

- It's amazing how these ideas all fit together like pieces of a puzzle! Don't seek approval! Gosh, I've been guilty of this too, sometimes on a quarter-hourly basis! So why shouldn't we seek approval? Simple: Seeking approval is usually a pretty good sign that you're afraid of criticism. If you're afraid of criticism, it's a sign you are unwilling to do your own thing and succeed, or a sign that you have in the past but have stepped back (this happened to me in grade school and I'm only now recovering from it). Don't seek approval. Don't seek approval. You are the only judge that matters in the end, after all.

- Keep working on this stuff, and don't give up. Rome wasn't built in a day. You will make these mistakes again, and you will suffer failures, which you'll have to pick yourself up from. But I think you will also find that, given time and practice, you will find greater successes, fewer failures, and your failures will hurt you less, since there'll be more opportunities around the bend. Now get out there and swing for the fences!



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[info]fantasyecho
2009-06-28 11:13 pm UTC (link)
Uh, lol.

A lot of this would be decent advice, but for vastly different reasons than you state here. And because it kinda comes from a wrong-headed place for a rather wrong-headed goal, you sound like a douche.

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[info]nova_one
2009-06-28 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Wanting to be successful is a wrong-headed goal? WUT

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[info]fantasyecho
2009-06-29 12:54 am UTC (link)
Focusing all your efforts specifically to get a woman seems rather wrong-headed to me, tbh. I know you're trying to be successful, but successful at what? How are you measuring your success? Plus, behaving like a douche to attract women doesn't exactly come across to me like a very sound idea.

On nerd night, ensure your game is off before entering my house, mkay?

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[info]nova_one
2009-06-29 01:02 am UTC (link)
Successful at life, and romantic success is an important part of life.

By the way, calling me a douche is not going to entice me to come to your party. My "game" will be off - so off it'll be off the premises.

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[info]_juju_
2009-06-29 01:09 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that? Not really helping your case of proving yourself not a douche.

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[info]nova_one
2009-06-29 01:12 am UTC (link)
Well, you're not helping either, dude.

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[info]ami_b
2009-06-29 03:04 am UTC (link)
This post made me twitch, and I've had some trouble explaining why, but here's my best shot.

The problem I see with some of the items above is that they imply that women are gatekeepers whose role is to either block you from your goal of romantic success or allow you access to it...put another way, that women are people who have something you want, as opposed to people whom you admire and whose company you enjoy. Some of these are, in practice, good ideas - for example, no, don't buy things for women you're not together with, because the gesture suggests you expect to be compensated for it; no, don't pay extravagant compliments, because (as you note further down) they're hard to take gracefully and hence make people uncomfortable. But I'd strongly recommend taking with a grain of salt any advice that's couched in terms of how to manipulate women, and be VERY wary of phrasing your own advice in those terms. The goal, as you put it, is "being your best self" or (to use a more old-fashioned phrase) putting your best foot forward to other people who happen to be women - not to push buttons and put ideas in the heads of otherwise mindless automatons. Statements like "never give women what they want" or "the message you're putting in her head..." are problematic this way. See what I mean?

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[info]nova_one
2009-06-29 03:31 am UTC (link)
Put another way, that women are people who have something you want, as opposed to people whom you admire and whose company you enjoy.

Well, the two ideas aren't mutually exclusive. Generally, I think we'd all like to "be with" people we respect. I think we're driven to be.

I'm not interested in manipulating women - I'm interested in manipulating myself so as to navigate the world more freely. I'm interested in doing what I need to do to earn respect. I'm only discovering that a few things we may need to do in order to earn such are actually counter-intuitive.

"put ideas in the heads of otherwise mindless automatons"

No, no, no! =) Oh gracious, everyone is assuming that I have it in for women - that I don't give them credit for having a brain! It's totally not the case. But do allow that certain stimuli may produce certain responses - a man watches a beer commercial, then wants to drink that beer. A lot of effort and marketing went into that commercial. (And I bet you this: I could call that man a mindless automaton, and nobody would complain!) But the man is not a mindless automaton, any more than anybody is when they see something and go, "ooooh, I want!"

People are putting ideas into our heads all the time, by everything they say and do. I think we need to recognize this and make the best of it.

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